The flex_attention + paged KV + CUDA graphs inference engine was
Qwen3-specific in a handful of places, but the underlying engine
(PageTable, PagedKVCache, manual forward walker, decode graph capture,
double-copy LoRA rollout, FA4 capability guard) reads only attributes
that LlamaAttention / LlamaModel also expose. This change makes the
engine run on both Qwen3 and Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct.
Attention forward factory:
- make_flex_qwen3_attention_forward -> make_flex_attention_forward
- Guard the per-head QK RMSNorm call behind hasattr(self, "q_norm").
Qwen3 has it, Llama does not. The Qwen3 path is byte-equivalent to
before: RMSNorm on [B, S, H, D] (per-head) then transpose.
- patch_qwen3_model -> patch_model_attention_forwards.
Chat template selection:
- New --chat_template {auto,grpo,native}. auto picks GRPO for Qwen3
and the tokenizer's shipped template otherwise. grpo forces GRPO
(matches prior Qwen3 baselines). native forces the tokenizer's own
template (Llama-3.2-Instruct only produces coherent completions
with its shipped Instruct template).
Stats JSON:
- backend: "qwen3_flex" -> "flex"; adds "model_name" so multi-arch
runs land in a single schema.
README: one paragraph noting Llama-3.2 support + the --chat_template
native flag.
Measured on B200 (sm_100), n_prompts 64, max_new_tokens 512, 5 rounds,
--capture_cudagraph, double-copy LoRA rank 32:
Qwen3-4B-Base bf16 3975 tok/s 44.2 GB
Qwen3-4B-Base bf16 + LoRA 3656 tok/s 52.0 GB
Qwen3-4B-Base 4bit + LoRA 1734 tok/s 40.6 GB
Llama-3.2-3B-Inst bf16 4216 tok/s 34.7 GB
Llama-3.2-3B-Inst bf16+L 4205 tok/s 40.9 GB
Llama-3.2-3B-Inst 4bit+L 1892 tok/s 31.7 GB
--verify_no_drift passes on both arches (base bit-identical across 10
perturb+refresh cycles, inference hash deterministic).
Llama runs the Triton flex_attention backend instead of FA4:
flash-attn-4 b9's sm_100 kernel raises a NoneType in
handle_block_sparse_empty_tile_correction_sm100 on Llama-3.2's head
shapes. Qwen3 is unaffected. Pass --no-fa4_prefill on Llama; auto-FA4
still enables on Qwen3.
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# Qwen3-4B GRPO rollout engine benchmarks
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This directory holds the reproducible scripts behind the experiment
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documented in the accompanying PR: can Hugging Face transformers'
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continuous-batching API (`model.generate_batch`, backed by
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`PagedAttentionCache`) serve as a drop-in replacement for vLLM during GRPO
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rollouts on the Qwen3-4B notebook?
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The short answer on a single NVIDIA B200 with Unsloth Qwen3-4B-Base, LoRA
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rank 32, bf16: transformers continuous batching is functionally correct and
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integrates with TRL's `use_transformers_paged=True` path, but end-to-end
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throughput lands at around 7 to 10 percent of vLLM colocated even after
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wiring in Flash Attention 4 on Blackwell. Full numbers and per-step timings
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are in the PR description.
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## Files
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| File | Purpose |
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| `unsloth_grpo_common.py` | Shared dataset loading, reward functions, and GRPO hyperparameters |
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| `qwen3_grpo_vllm.py` | vLLM baseline training entry (`fast_inference=True`, `use_vllm=True`, `vllm_mode="colocate"`) |
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| `qwen3_grpo_naive.py` | Naive TRL path (vanilla HF `model.generate`, no vLLM, no CB) matching https://huggingface.co/docs/trl/grpo_trainer |
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| `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` | Continuous-batching candidate (`fast_inference=False`, `use_transformers_paged=True`, vanilla HF + PEFT). Supports `--persistent_cb` |
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| `cb_vs_vllm_generation.py` | Standalone generation microbenchmark across both engines; supports `--attn_impl`, `--persistent_cb` |
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| `flash_attn_fa4_shim.py` | Installs two monkey-patches that let CB dispatch to FA4 when `--attn_impl flash_attention_2` is selected |
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| `persistent_cb.py` | Replaces `model.generate_batch` with a version that reuses a single `ContinuousBatchingManager` |
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## Flash Attention 4 on Blackwell (sm_100)
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The CB code path has three attention implementations: `eager_paged`,
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`sdpa_paged`, `flash_attention_2`. The last one requires the legacy
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`flash_attn` Python package, which does not install cleanly on B200 today:
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- `flash_attn==2.8.3+cu12torch2.8cxx11abiTRUE-cp313` from the Dao-AILab
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releases hits `undefined symbol: _ZNK3c106SymInt6sym_neERKS0_` on torch
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2.9.1 (ABI drift between torch 2.8 and 2.9).
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- `flash_attn_3-3.0.0-cp39-abi3-manylinux_2_28_x86_64.whl` from the PyTorch
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wheel index installs but was built for sm_80 and sm_90a only. B200 is
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sm_100. The kernel call fails with "no kernel image is available for
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execution on the device".
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- `flash-attn-4==4.0.0b9` (pure Python CuTeDSL, Dao-AILab) works on B200.
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It exposes `flash_attn.cute.flash_attn_varlen_func`.
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The recipe this repo uses:
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```bash
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uv pip install --no-deps flash-attn-4==4.0.0b9
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```
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plus a tiny site-packages shim that re-exports FA4 symbols under the
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FA2 `flash_attn` namespace so transformers' `is_flash_attn_2_available()` and
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`_lazy_imports("flash_attention_2")` succeed. The shim lives out of tree in
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`lib/python3.13/site-packages/flash_attn/__init__.py` +
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`flash_attn/bert_padding.py` + a `flash_attn-2.8.3.dist-info/` directory
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with enough metadata to satisfy `importlib.metadata.version("flash_attn")`.
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On top of that, `flash_attn_fa4_shim.py` monkey-patches two rough edges in
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the CB to FA integration that are unrelated to which FA version you use:
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1. `ContinuousBatchProcessor.return_attention_mask` returns `False` for
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`flash_attention_2` / `flash_attention_3` so CB does not emit a 4-D paged
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attention mask that breaks `_flash_attention_forward`'s `_upad_input`
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branch.
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2. `_flash_attention_forward` accepts `max_seqlen_q` / `max_seqlen_k`
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as aliases for `max_length_q` / `max_length_k`. Without this rename CB's
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model kwargs never bind and FA is called with `max_seqlen_q=None`.
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## Install
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Prereqs: `torch >= 2.5` for `torch.nn.attention.flex_attention`. The
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Triton backend that flex_attention uses by default runs on Ampere,
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Hopper, and Blackwell -- no separate install.
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FA4 (CuTeDSL) targets Hopper and Blackwell only. `qwen3_flex_inference.py`
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auto-enables FA4 on supported GPUs and falls back to the Triton
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`flex_attention` backend elsewhere. `--fa4_prefill` forces on (warns +
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falls back if the GPU does not support it); `--no-fa4_prefill` forces off.
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CUDA 13 (recommended, used on B200 / RTX 50xx):
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pip install --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu130 torch
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pip install "flash-attn-4[cu13]"
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CUDA 12 (H100 boxes still on cu12):
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pip install torch # default index is cu12
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pip install flash-attn-4
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Pin `flash-attn-4==4.0.0b9` to match this benchmark. The `[cu13]`
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extra pulls in `nvidia-cutlass-dsl` built for CUDA 13.
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`qwen3_flex_inference.py` runs on both Qwen3 and Llama-3.2 (the only
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arch-specific branch is Qwen3's per-head QK RMSNorm; the rest of the
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flex_attention + paged KV + CUDA graphs stack is identical). Pass
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`--model_name unsloth/Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct` to target Llama, along with
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`--chat_template native` to use Llama's shipped Instruct template instead
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of the Qwen3 GRPO template.
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| GPU | arch | sm | Auto FA4 | Triton flex_attention |
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|--------------|-----------|-------|----------|------------------------|
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| A100 | Ampere | sm_80 | off (uses Triton) | Works |
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| H100 / H200 | Hopper | sm_90 | on | Works |
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| RTX 50xx | Blackwell | sm_120 | on | Works |
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| B200 / GB200 | Blackwell | sm_100 | on | Works |
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The transformers continuous-batching path's FA4 wiring (the
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`flash_attn_fa4_shim.py` monkey-patches and the
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`site-packages/flash_attn/__init__.py` namespace shim that makes FA4
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visible under the FA2 import name) is covered below under "Known
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integration notes".
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## Reproduce
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```bash
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pip install unsloth "transformers>=4.57" "trl>=0.25" peft vllm
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# Generation microbenchmark (32 prompts, 512 new tokens each)
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CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=2 python scripts/benchmarks/cb_vs_vllm_generation.py \
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--backend vllm --stats_path logs/vllm_gen.json \
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--n_prompts 32 --n_rounds 2 --max_new_tokens 512 \
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--gpu_memory_utilization 0.6
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# CB variants
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CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=6 python scripts/benchmarks/cb_vs_vllm_generation.py \
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--backend tpaged --attn_impl sdpa \
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--stats_path logs/cb_gen_sdpa.json \
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--n_prompts 32 --n_rounds 2 --max_new_tokens 512
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CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=6 python scripts/benchmarks/cb_vs_vllm_generation.py \
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--backend tpaged --attn_impl flash_attention_2 \
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--stats_path logs/cb_gen_fa.json \
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--n_prompts 32 --n_rounds 2 --max_new_tokens 512
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# Full GRPO training (20 steps)
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CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=2 python scripts/benchmarks/qwen3_grpo_vllm.py \
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--max_steps 20 --num_generations 2 --per_device_train_batch_size 2 \
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--output_dir outputs/grpo_vllm --stats_path logs/vllm_stats.json \
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--gpu_memory_utilization 0.6
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CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=7 python scripts/benchmarks/qwen3_grpo_naive.py \
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--max_steps 20 --num_generations 2 --per_device_train_batch_size 2 \
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--output_dir outputs/grpo_naive --stats_path logs/naive_stats.json
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CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=6 python scripts/benchmarks/qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py \
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--max_steps 20 --num_generations 2 --per_device_train_batch_size 2 \
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--attn_impl flash_attention_2 \
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--output_dir outputs/grpo_tpaged_fa --stats_path logs/tpaged_stats_fa.json \
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--max_batch_tokens 16384 --num_blocks 16384
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```
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`qwen3_grpo_naive.py` and `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` accept an optional
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`--compile_mode {default,reduce-overhead,max-autotune-no-cudagraphs}` flag.
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When set, `trainer.model.forward` (and `trainer.ref_model.forward`, if present)
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are wrapped with `torch.compile` after trainer construction. The vLLM driver
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has no such flag because vLLM owns its own inference graph. `--compile_dynamic`
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(default on) toggles dynamic-shape compilation.
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## Known integration notes for transformers continuous batching + TRL + Unsloth
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These are the sharp edges you hit going down the continuous-batching path and
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how `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` handles them:
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1. **`top_k=-1` is not a valid value for transformers.** vLLM treats `-1` as
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"disabled", but `TopKLogitsWarper` raises
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`ValueError: top_k has to be a strictly positive integer`. The script
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rewrites `top_k=None` on the shared GRPOConfig before handing it to
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`GRPOConfig(use_transformers_paged=True, ...)`.
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2. **`PagedAttentionCache` default upper bounds are extremely conservative.**
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`_upper_bound_max_batch_tokens=256` and `_upper_bound_num_blocks=4096`
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choke decode throughput. The script passes
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`generation_kwargs={"max_batch_tokens": 16384, "num_blocks": 16384}` which
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TRL forwards to `GenerationConfig`, and the CB manager reads them when
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sizing the paged cache.
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3. **Unsloth's `Qwen3Attention_fast_forward` bypasses the functional
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attention interface.** Calling `model.generate_batch` on an
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Unsloth-patched Qwen3 model fails inside
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`unsloth.utils.attention_dispatch.run_attention` because Unsloth routes
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through its own dispatcher rather than reading
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`config._attn_implementation`. The benchmark script works around this by
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loading a vanilla HF Qwen3 with PEFT LoRA for the tpaged and naive paths.
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This costs the Unsloth training kernels but keeps the comparison clean.
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A proper upstream fix is to detect `config._attn_implementation` being
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`flash_attention_2` / `sdpa_paged` / `eager_paged` and delegate to the
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stock transformers forward.
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4. **TRL imports `GuidedDecodingParams` from `vllm.sampling_params`.**
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Newer vLLM releases (>= 0.13) have moved or removed that symbol, so
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`trl.trainer.grpo_trainer` fails to import on a fresh vLLM install even
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if you are not using vLLM. `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` installs a minimal
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shim before importing TRL.
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5. **`UnslothGRPOTrainer` calls `model.for_training()` /
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`for_inference()`.** Importing `unsloth` replaces
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`trl.GRPOTrainer` with `UnslothGRPOTrainer`, which assumes the model has
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these hooks. A vanilla HF model does not, so
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`qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` does not `import unsloth` at all.
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## Why continuous batching is still slower than vLLM on this workload
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- `ContinuousBatchingManager` does not yet implement CUDA graphs
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(`use_cuda_graph=True` raises `NotImplementedError`). vLLM captures 100+
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mixed prefill-decode and decode graphs during warmup.
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- CB re-allocates a fresh `PagedAttentionCache` on every `generate_batch`
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call. For GRPO that is once per step. `--persistent_cb` (via
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`persistent_cb.py`) keeps the cache warm across steps.
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- FA4 is a CuTeDSL package: first call per shape pays a one-time
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JIT-compile.
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- vLLM uses its own colocated attention + FlashInfer / TRTLLM kernels
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tuned for decode, which currently outperform everything a generic CB
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path can do.
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These are all upstream transformers issues, not Unsloth issues. The scripts
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in this directory are intentionally simple so they are easy to port into a
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future upstream fix.
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