# Qwen3-4B GRPO rollout engine benchmarks This directory holds the reproducible scripts behind the experiment documented in the accompanying PR: can Hugging Face transformers' continuous-batching API (`model.generate_batch`, backed by `PagedAttentionCache`) serve as a drop-in replacement for vLLM during GRPO rollouts on the Qwen3-4B notebook? The short answer on a single NVIDIA B200 with Unsloth Qwen3-4B-Base, LoRA rank 32, bf16: transformers continuous batching is functionally correct and integrates with TRL's `use_transformers_paged=True` path, but end-to-end throughput lands at around 7 to 10 percent of vLLM colocated even after wiring in Flash Attention 4 on Blackwell. Full numbers and per-step timings are in the PR description. ## Files | File | Purpose | |---|---| | `unsloth_grpo_common.py` | Shared dataset loading, reward functions, and GRPO hyperparameters | | `qwen3_grpo_vllm.py` | vLLM baseline training entry (`fast_inference=True`, `use_vllm=True`, `vllm_mode="colocate"`) | | `qwen3_grpo_naive.py` | Naive TRL path (vanilla HF `model.generate`, no vLLM, no CB) matching https://huggingface.co/docs/trl/grpo_trainer | | `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` | Continuous-batching candidate (`fast_inference=False`, `use_transformers_paged=True`, vanilla HF + PEFT). Supports `--persistent_cb` | | `cb_vs_vllm_generation.py` | Standalone generation microbenchmark across both engines; supports `--attn_impl`, `--persistent_cb` | | `flash_attn_fa4_shim.py` | Installs two monkey-patches that let CB dispatch to FA4 when `--attn_impl flash_attention_2` is selected | | `persistent_cb.py` | Replaces `model.generate_batch` with a version that reuses a single `ContinuousBatchingManager` | ## Flash Attention 4 on Blackwell (sm_100) The CB code path has three attention implementations: `eager_paged`, `sdpa_paged`, `flash_attention_2`. The last one requires the legacy `flash_attn` Python package, which does not install cleanly on B200 today: - `flash_attn==2.8.3+cu12torch2.8cxx11abiTRUE-cp313` from the Dao-AILab releases hits `undefined symbol: _ZNK3c106SymInt6sym_neERKS0_` on torch 2.9.1 (ABI drift between torch 2.8 and 2.9). - `flash_attn_3-3.0.0-cp39-abi3-manylinux_2_28_x86_64.whl` from the PyTorch wheel index installs but was built for sm_80 and sm_90a only. B200 is sm_100. The kernel call fails with "no kernel image is available for execution on the device". - `flash-attn-4==4.0.0b9` (pure Python CuTeDSL, Dao-AILab) works on B200. It exposes `flash_attn.cute.flash_attn_varlen_func`. The recipe this repo uses: ```bash uv pip install --no-deps flash-attn-4==4.0.0b9 ``` plus a tiny site-packages shim that re-exports FA4 symbols under the FA2 `flash_attn` namespace so transformers' `is_flash_attn_2_available()` and `_lazy_imports("flash_attention_2")` succeed. The shim lives out of tree in `lib/python3.13/site-packages/flash_attn/__init__.py` + `flash_attn/bert_padding.py` + a `flash_attn-2.8.3.dist-info/` directory with enough metadata to satisfy `importlib.metadata.version("flash_attn")`. On top of that, `flash_attn_fa4_shim.py` monkey-patches two rough edges in the CB to FA integration that are unrelated to which FA version you use: 1. `ContinuousBatchProcessor.return_attention_mask` returns `False` for `flash_attention_2` / `flash_attention_3` so CB does not emit a 4-D paged attention mask that breaks `_flash_attention_forward`'s `_upad_input` branch. 2. `_flash_attention_forward` accepts `max_seqlen_q` / `max_seqlen_k` as aliases for `max_length_q` / `max_length_k`. Without this rename CB's model kwargs never bind and FA is called with `max_seqlen_q=None`. ## Reproduce ```bash pip install unsloth "transformers>=4.57" "trl>=0.25" peft vllm uv pip install --no-deps flash-attn-4==4.0.0b9 # Generation microbenchmark (32 prompts, 512 new tokens each) CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=2 python scripts/benchmarks/cb_vs_vllm_generation.py \ --backend vllm --stats_path logs/vllm_gen.json \ --n_prompts 32 --n_rounds 2 --max_new_tokens 512 \ --gpu_memory_utilization 0.6 # CB variants CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=6 python scripts/benchmarks/cb_vs_vllm_generation.py \ --backend tpaged --attn_impl sdpa \ --stats_path logs/cb_gen_sdpa.json \ --n_prompts 32 --n_rounds 2 --max_new_tokens 512 CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=6 python scripts/benchmarks/cb_vs_vllm_generation.py \ --backend tpaged --attn_impl flash_attention_2 \ --stats_path logs/cb_gen_fa.json \ --n_prompts 32 --n_rounds 2 --max_new_tokens 512 # Full GRPO training (20 steps) CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=2 python scripts/benchmarks/qwen3_grpo_vllm.py \ --max_steps 20 --num_generations 2 --per_device_train_batch_size 2 \ --output_dir outputs/grpo_vllm --stats_path logs/vllm_stats.json \ --gpu_memory_utilization 0.6 CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=7 python scripts/benchmarks/qwen3_grpo_naive.py \ --max_steps 20 --num_generations 2 --per_device_train_batch_size 2 \ --output_dir outputs/grpo_naive --stats_path logs/naive_stats.json CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=6 python scripts/benchmarks/qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py \ --max_steps 20 --num_generations 2 --per_device_train_batch_size 2 \ --attn_impl flash_attention_2 \ --output_dir outputs/grpo_tpaged_fa --stats_path logs/tpaged_stats_fa.json \ --max_batch_tokens 16384 --num_blocks 16384 ``` ## Known integration notes for transformers continuous batching + TRL + Unsloth These are the sharp edges you hit going down the continuous-batching path and how `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` handles them: 1. **`top_k=-1` is not a valid value for transformers.** vLLM treats `-1` as "disabled", but `TopKLogitsWarper` raises `ValueError: top_k has to be a strictly positive integer`. The script rewrites `top_k=None` on the shared GRPOConfig before handing it to `GRPOConfig(use_transformers_paged=True, ...)`. 2. **`PagedAttentionCache` default upper bounds are extremely conservative.** `_upper_bound_max_batch_tokens=256` and `_upper_bound_num_blocks=4096` choke decode throughput. The script passes `generation_kwargs={"max_batch_tokens": 16384, "num_blocks": 16384}` which TRL forwards to `GenerationConfig`, and the CB manager reads them when sizing the paged cache. 3. **Unsloth's `Qwen3Attention_fast_forward` bypasses the functional attention interface.** Calling `model.generate_batch` on an Unsloth-patched Qwen3 model fails inside `unsloth.utils.attention_dispatch.run_attention` because Unsloth routes through its own dispatcher rather than reading `config._attn_implementation`. The benchmark script works around this by loading a vanilla HF Qwen3 with PEFT LoRA for the tpaged and naive paths. This costs the Unsloth training kernels but keeps the comparison clean. A proper upstream fix is to detect `config._attn_implementation` being `flash_attention_2` / `sdpa_paged` / `eager_paged` and delegate to the stock transformers forward. 4. **TRL imports `GuidedDecodingParams` from `vllm.sampling_params`.** Newer vLLM releases (>= 0.13) have moved or removed that symbol, so `trl.trainer.grpo_trainer` fails to import on a fresh vLLM install even if you are not using vLLM. `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` installs a minimal shim before importing TRL. 5. **`UnslothGRPOTrainer` calls `model.for_training()` / `for_inference()`.** Importing `unsloth` replaces `trl.GRPOTrainer` with `UnslothGRPOTrainer`, which assumes the model has these hooks. A vanilla HF model does not, so `qwen3_grpo_tpaged.py` does not `import unsloth` at all. ## Why continuous batching is still slower than vLLM on this workload - `ContinuousBatchingManager` does not yet implement CUDA graphs (`use_cuda_graph=True` raises `NotImplementedError`). vLLM captures 100+ mixed prefill-decode and decode graphs during warmup. - CB re-allocates a fresh `PagedAttentionCache` on every `generate_batch` call. For GRPO that is once per step. `--persistent_cb` (via `persistent_cb.py`) keeps the cache warm across steps. - FA4 is a CuTeDSL package: first call per shape pays a one-time JIT-compile. - vLLM uses its own colocated attention + FlashInfer / TRTLLM kernels tuned for decode, which currently outperform everything a generic CB path can do. These are all upstream transformers issues, not Unsloth issues. The scripts in this directory are intentionally simple so they are easy to port into a future upstream fix.